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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/12/2009 11:01:41 PM   
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It's like Tom Brokaw said just before the election: "We don't know anything about the guy."

Basically, Obama is more or less a creation of the media (not literally) in that they are too invested in him to even look into who he is.



Maybe it's partly because the birthers and hesamusliners are a distraction from real issues.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/13/2009 3:23:09 AM   
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I am not aware that Obama has signed any sort of release or waiver for the State of Hawaii to make available the original certificate. It could be that I missed it somewhere. But be that as it may, its a done deal. There are enough other things about Obama to question without going to something that, if proven at this late date, might very well stir some folks to violence.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/13/2009 9:41:52 AM   
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I am not aware that Obama has signed any sort of release or waiver for the State of Hawaii to make available the original certificate. It could be that I missed it somewhere. But be that as it may, its a done deal. There are enough other things about Obama to question without going to something that, if proven at this late date, might very well stir some folks to violence.


They will find some excuse.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/13/2009 2:49:10 PM   
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It's like Tom Brokaw said just before the election: "We don't know anything about the guy."

Basically, Obama is more or less a creation of the media (not literally) in that they are too invested in him to even look into who he is.



Maybe it's partly because the birthers and hesamusliners are a distraction from real issues.

So very true........makes you wonder if they (the birthers and hesamulimers) are really on HIS side of things.........(now..there's a real conspiracy theory for you........ )

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/13/2009 5:06:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Market42Fan

It's like Tom Brokaw said just before the election: "We don't know anything about the guy."

Basically, Obama is more or less a creation of the media (not literally) in that they are too invested in him to even look into who he is.



Maybe it's partly because the birthers and hesamusliners are a distraction from real issues.

So very true........makes you wonder if they (the birthers and hesamulimers) are really on HIS side of things.........(now..there's a real conspiracy theory for you........ )

It's the M. Night Shyamalan strategy. I see Dead Panels, I mean people.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/13/2009 5:24:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cow451

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It's like Tom Brokaw said just before the election: "We don't know anything about the guy."

Basically, Obama is more or less a creation of the media (not literally) in that they are too invested in him to even look into who he is.



Maybe it's partly because the birthers and hesamusliners are a distraction from real issues.

So very true........makes you wonder if they (the birthers and hesamulimers) are really on HIS side of things.........(now..there's a real conspiracy theory for you........ )

It's the M. Night Shyamalan strategy. I see Dead Panels, I mean people.

LOL.....I love M.Night Shyamalan's movies......

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/13/2009 5:27:31 PM   
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So, are people still worried about the birth certificate thing, or not?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/15/2009 9:46:32 AM   
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So, are people still worried about the birth certificate thing, or not?

some are....but most people have woken up and smelled the coffee..and realized that Mr. Obama IS an American citizen and they can't take the easy way out of getting him out of office now that they have put him in.....

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/17/2009 5:58:11 PM   
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So, are people still worried about the birth certificate thing, or not?

some are....but most people have woken up and smelled the coffee..and realized that Mr. Obama IS an American citizen and they can't take the easy way out of getting him out of office now that they have put him in.....



The state of Hawaii is celebrating it's fifty-year anniversary of statehood. Few people realize that Hawaii was being courted by Kenya, but chose the US. That's why so many Kenyans were born in Hawaii around that time.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/17/2009 10:10:22 PM   
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The state of Hawaii is celebrating it's fifty-year anniversary of statehood. Few people realize that Hawaii was being courted by Kenya, but chose the US. That's why so many Kenyans were born in Hawaii around that time.



Cow451, this is the best one I've ever seen from all your posts!

No offence, please!!!


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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 8/19/2009 3:12:55 PM   
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Apparently the birther idiocy is largely exclusive to one region and one race. White folk in the South.

What is it about these two characteristics that make them really dumb? Republicans in the rest of the country don't seem to have caught the bug.


This is a hilarious generalization. I wouldn't mind hearing who came up with this one.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 3:09:36 PM   
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As much as I am not a fan of BO, there are three words that remind me that he needs to remain in office

"President Joe Biden"

Let him stay for the next 4 years. After he gets done, we won't see a Democrat in the White House for another 20 years!

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 3:18:17 PM   
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So, are people still worried about the birth certificate thing, or not?


Some folks are, but it seems to be more of a question of why he will not just release a certified copy of the "Life Birth Certificate", of which he has not. I figure it is not a conspiracy on his part; just arrogance.

I would be much more interested in reading his papers from, and learning more about his time at Columbia University. Which he cannot remember what he wrote, who his friends were, where he lived, or who paid for his way to Pakistan. That would be great to have access to that, but no way is he going to open that page of his life. Why? I don't know.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 3:45:15 PM   
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So, are people still worried about the birth certificate thing, or not?


Some folks are, but it seems to be more of a question of why he will not just release a certified copy of the "Life Birth Certificate", of which he has not. I figure it is not a conspiracy on his part; just arrogance.



The state of Hawaii-- the only legal authority that can--- has certified it. There is no other authority, including the President.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 4:12:54 PM   
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The state of Hawaii-- the only legal authority that can--- has certified it. There is no other authority, including the President.


True, but with the system, the certificate could be obtained from anyone, anywhere, as long as the connection or the $$$ is there! Even King Solomon said, "Money answers everythin!"

Just my personal view!


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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 4:54:33 PM   
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The state of Hawaii-- the only legal authority that can--- has certified it. There is no other authority, including the President.


True, but with the system, the certificate could be obtained from anyone, anywhere, as long as the connection or the $$$ is there! Even King Solomon said, "Money answers everythin!"

Just my personal view!



Only the State of Hawaii can certify a birth. Period.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 5:05:10 PM   
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The state of Hawaii-- the only legal authority that can--- has certified it. There is no other authority, including the President.


True, but with the system, the certificate could be obtained from anyone, anywhere, as long as the connection or the $$$ is there! Even King Solomon said, "Money answers everythin!"

Just my personal view!



Only the State of Hawaii can certify a birth. Period.
You might want to clarify that as "Only the State of Hawaii can certify a birth of someone born there. Period"

Otherwise....we'd all have to have birth certificates from Hawaii

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 5:09:54 PM   
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The state of Hawaii-- the only legal authority that can--- has certified it. There is no other authority, including the President.


True, but with the system, the certificate could be obtained from anyone, anywhere, as long as the connection or the $$$ is there! Even King Solomon said, "Money answers everythin!"

Just my personal view!



Only the State of Hawaii can certify a birth. Period.
You might want to clarify that as "Only the State of Hawaii can certify a birth of someone born there. Period"

Otherwise....we'd all have to have birth certificates from Hawaii

True. Each state has that responsibility for its birth records.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 5:18:01 PM   
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The state of Hawaii-- the only legal authority that can--- has certified it. There is no other authority, including the President.


True, but with the system, the certificate could be obtained from anyone, anywhere, as long as the connection or the $$$ is there! Even King Solomon said, "Money answers everythin!"

Just my personal view!


If this were the case, then it would be impossible to certify anybody's birth, ever. The case is closed. President Obama is a United States citizen, and is not disqualified from being president by this standard.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/1/2009 5:18:29 PM   
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I would be much more interested in reading his papers from, and learning more about his time at Columbia University. Which he cannot remember what he wrote, who his friends were, where he lived, or who paid for his way to Pakistan. That would be great to have access to that, but no way is he going to open that page of his life. Why? I don't know.

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Obama visited Pakistan as a student (age 20) in 1981.

Some then speculated, or claimed outright, that Obama must have gotten into Pakistan using an Indonesian passport obtained while his mother was married to Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian man whom she had divorced the previous year. Under this theory, the young Obama had somehow become an Indonesian citizen. "Birthers" claimed that the Pakistan trip constituted indirect proof of Obama’s supposed Indonesian citizenship. Philadelphia lawyer Phil Berg even told the U.S. Supreme Court last year, before it refused to hear his case challenging Obama’s qualification to be president, that Pakistan "was on the State Department’s travel ban list for U.S. Citizens."

But that claim is quite false. There was no such ban. Americans traveled there without incident, as shown by a travel piece that appeared in the New York Times in 1981, dated June 14. Barbara Crossette, an assistant news editor of the Times, told her mostly American readers they could travel to Lahore, Pakistan, by air, rail or road, adding: "Tourists can obtain a free, 30-day visa (necessary for Americans) at border crossings and airports."


AND
Apparently, according to the Obama campaign, In 1981 -- the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University -- Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there. The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/2/2009 12:28:06 PM   
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I would be much more interested in reading his papers from, and learning more about his time at Columbia University. Which he cannot remember what he wrote, who his friends were, where he lived, or who paid for his way to Pakistan. That would be great to have access to that, but no way is he going to open that page of his life. Why? I don't know.

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Obama visited Pakistan as a student (age 20) in 1981.

Some then speculated, or claimed outright, that Obama must have gotten into Pakistan using an Indonesian passport obtained while his mother was married to Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian man whom she had divorced the previous year. Under this theory, the young Obama had somehow become an Indonesian citizen. "Birthers" claimed that the Pakistan trip constituted indirect proof of Obama’s supposed Indonesian citizenship. Philadelphia lawyer Phil Berg even told the U.S. Supreme Court last year, before it refused to hear his case challenging Obama’s qualification to be president, that Pakistan "was on the State Department’s travel ban list for U.S. Citizens."

But that claim is quite false. There was no such ban. Americans traveled there without incident, as shown by a travel piece that appeared in the New York Times in 1981, dated June 14. Barbara Crossette, an assistant news editor of the Times, told her mostly American readers they could travel to Lahore, Pakistan, by air, rail or road, adding: "Tourists can obtain a free, 30-day visa (necessary for Americans) at border crossings and airports."


AND
Apparently, according to the Obama campaign, In 1981 -- the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University -- Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia. After that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there. The Obama campaign says Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend's family in Karachi and also visiting Hyderabad in Southern India.
so....basically just a college kid visiting his mother and going with a friend to their house.....

BLAH....


this all still draws attention away from the real issues that NEED to be dealt with rather than chasing dead rabbits being dragged around by dead horses.....

Can we all focus on his "reforms"?

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/2/2009 10:21:43 PM   
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Can we all focus on his "reforms"?


You'll have to help your brother remove the Birth Certificate from his eye first.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/2/2009 10:26:08 PM   
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Can we all focus on his "reforms"?


You'll have to help your brother remove the Birth Certificate from his eye first.

I've tried...they keep sticking it back in there and claiming they can't see it.....
at this point...I think I just shake the dust from my shoes (but not in their eye of course)...

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/3/2009 2:43:53 PM   
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Can we all focus on his "reforms"?


You'll have to help your brother remove the Birth Certificate from his eye first.



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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/10/2009 12:51:52 PM   
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So, are people still worried about the birth certificate thing, or not?


Some folks are, but it seems to be more of a question of why he will not just release a certified copy of the "Life Birth Certificate", of which he has not. I figure it is not a conspiracy on his part; just arrogance.



The state of Hawaii-- the only legal authority that can--- has certified it. There is no other authority, including the President.


I have a certified copy of my live birth certificate signed by the doctor, my parents, and the folks who filed it; but Obama will not produce his.

Illegal alien, probably not; just arrogant beyond extreme.

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