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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 3/19/2010 1:28:14 PM
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pwfaith
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Gideon bibles, but what about Mormon bibles? I can't remember where I read it now but I remember an article at one time that said something about not taking Mormon bibles.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 3/19/2010 4:57:45 PM
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I've never seen a Book of Mormon in a hotel where I've stayed. Where have you seen one of those in a hotel?
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 3/19/2010 8:01:41 PM
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I've never seen a Book of Mormon in a hotel where I've stayed. Where have you seen one of those in a hotel?
Marriott, they're owned by Mormons.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 3/23/2010 12:26:08 AM
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Stealing is always a sin, no matter what you steal or where you steal, even if it's a bible from a hotel. You can only take something that you have already paid for from a hotel and your lodging cost certainly does not include the bible. Bibles are sold at a cheap price nowadays for the purpose of evangelism. If you can't afford to buy one, then go to a church and request the pastor to get you one. Don't steal!
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 3/23/2010 12:33:37 AM
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While I'm certainly not advocating stealing, I have heard personally straight from the mouth of a Gideon that they praise God when those Bibles are gone because it means someone took them. If you are in need of a Bible for whatever reason, they encourage and want you to take them. So to take a Gideon Bible is to be blessed - it's not stealing if they put it there with the express purpose that you can take it if you need it.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 3/25/2010 11:44:13 AM
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i think for most us, we have a bible and therefore have no need to take the gideon bible (or any other christian bible that happens to be in the room.) but for the lost soul who doesn't know christ, the bible may be the reason he/she gets saved. in which case, i say it's ok to take. because if they don't, what are they gonna do? i wouldn't count on them going out to buy one because who buys a bible when they're lost? the first bible i got was given to me by my mother. every bible after that i bought...after i was saved.
i also heard that the gideons prefer people to take and use the bible.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/12/2010 11:46:12 AM
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No it's not stealing, the Gideons provide them free for the taking. Had some Gideons in our past church and on an annual basis they did fund raising. They'd always offer stats on how many Bibles were taken and it was like a praise session when they told us how many and where they needed them.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/15/2010 10:59:06 PM
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Since I have Bibles, I wouldn't take a Gideon one. If I saw the Koran, or a JW or Mormon bible, though, I'd be tempted to throw it in the nearest trash can, so that nobody was misled by their teachings.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/18/2010 6:23:27 AM
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I was sorely tempted to trash the book of mormon in the hotel room I recently stayed at, but wasn't sure if that would be wrong. So I stuck it in the closet while I was there... i'm sure they put it back when I left, though.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/19/2010 8:02:46 PM
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Someone I know, who has stayed at Marriott hotels, has taken an extra bible with her to swap with a Book of Mormon.
LOVE IT!!
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/24/2010 11:06:23 AM
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LOL I do that too! We have a corporate acct with Marriott, so I spend a LOT of time in their hotels.
Did you know that if you ask, they will remove the Book of Mormon from your room when you make your reservation? I had a really intersting converstation with a maid one morning, and she told me that, and when I checked with the front desk, they confirmed it. Their reasoning? They consider themselves a family friendly company, respectful of all peoples and their beliefs.
Now. . .while this GA peach is a God fearing Christian, I can't help but respect a company that respects me.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/24/2010 1:06:58 PM
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Holy passive aggressive BATMAN!
You made me spit out my Coke Zero -- shame on you!
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/24/2010 2:07:19 PM
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Stealing is stealing.
The Bibles were give to the hotels for the use for the use of its customers while they are staying at the hotel.
Taking towels, ash trays,Bibles, Book of Mormon etc. from the hotel is stealing, which is a sin.
One can call an 800 number and get a free Book of Mormon, or purchase a Bible very economically (way cheaper that a hotel room, or stealing one).
I don't know of a place you can get a free Bible except my Church when someone visits and says they don't have one.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/24/2010 2:49:26 PM
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Holy passive aggressive BATMAN!
You made me spit out my Coke Zero -- shame on you!
Yep, the image of a passive-aggressive Batman is pretty funny!!
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Stealing is stealing.
The Bibles were give to the hotels for the use for the use of its customers while they are staying at the hotel.
Taking towels, ash trays, Bibles, Book of Mormon, etc. from the hotel is stealing, which is a sin.
Thanks
RC
Excellent points!!
I think you are allowed to take with you are the consumable items the motel/hotel provides -- shampoo, conditioner, soap, disposable cups, and the like. (I'm not sure they are allowed by law "reuse" whatever someone doesn't open/leaves behind. Maybe they are allowed. I don't know.)
I wouldn't actually throw away the Book of Mormon when staying at an establishment. I just said it was awfully tempting! 
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/25/2010 11:54:49 AM
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Input from a legalist: :D
1. Anything taken without asking or without prior knowledge of the acceptablity of taking something is stealing. If the Gideon's WANT their bible taken, they should probably make sure it's posted clearly. Perhaps inside the front cover?
2. If one should wish to have a Gideon's Bible (I ask myself why) one should ask the front desk about it. (acccountability imo)
3. An hotel is NOT a private residence, therefore "I wonder if that person would appreciate a house guest who took their Bible and left a book promoting atheism in its stead" really isn't a good analogy.
:D
Just my 2 cents which are probably not worth it.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/26/2010 12:30:41 PM
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Input from a legalist: :D
1. Anything taken without asking or without prior knowledge of the acceptablity of taking something is stealing. If the Gideon's WANT their bible taken, they should probably make sure it's posted clearly. Perhaps inside the front cover?
If I remember correctly from my childhood, I believe it is printed inside the Bible that it may be taken if you wish, and will be replaced. I don't think it was an individual, bold print line. I think it was part of the "who we are and what we do" page.
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2. If one should wish to have a Gideon's Bible (I ask myself why) one should ask the front desk about it. (acccountability imo)
If it's printed in the Bible that it can be taken, I'd assume that the Gideons had made the hotel management aware of that. So, I don't see a real need to tell the front desk, unless you wanted to let them know they need to contact the Gideons for a replacement.
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3. An hotel is NOT a private residence, therefore "I wonder if that person would appreciate a house guest who took their Bible and left a book promoting atheism in its stead" really isn't a good analogy.
I agree it isn't a good analogy. I don't take the soap from my host's bathroom, but I usually do take the hotel soap home if I like the scent!
I do disagree with throwing away any text a hotel provides for its guests (as some have suggested with a Book of Mormon). Aside from the whole Golden Rule idea (I wouldn't want a Muslim or atheist tearing up a Bible), the hotel has the privilege of providing whatever amenities it desires for its guests. The guest is not required to use those amenities, but doesn't have the right to destroy an amenity intended for the next guest. (Unless, of course, those texts also say you can take it if you want...then it's yours to do with as you please.) If someone wanted to leave a Bible at a Marriott, I wouldn't have an issue with that. The housekeeping staff can leave it or take it to lost and found, or do whatever else that the hotel's policy dictates for that situation, before the next guest.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/26/2010 12:44:52 PM
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Angelus00
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Thank you Moon_Mouse.
I've never picked up a Gideon bible so I wouldn't know what's printed inside the front cover. the second point would probably be more pointed IF nothing was printed inside the front cover.  Of course, each point made PERFECT sense when I was typing it. lol
thank you again.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 5/28/2010 10:49:30 AM
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I used to look at the Gideon Bibles when I was a kid, because they had a section at the front with John 3:16 printed in all the different languages the Gideons publish in. I thought that was cool.
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RE: Stealing A Hotel Bible Not A Sin - 6/1/2010 12:37:23 PM
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The Gideon bibles are donations to hotel chains to place in the rooms.
If the hotel was paying for them it would be stealing without their consent.
Since, the express purpose of the Gideon ministry is to have the word of God available to people, it has been rightly stated that they place them in hotels so that they can be taken. If someone wants to challenge that, just go to their website and they explain that is what they want people to do.
The same reason that they go out in public handing out new testaments without charge or leaving them in different locations.
Rob
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